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Robyn Grayson·4/11/2017 in General

Demotion Proposal. Qunow and Rich Richie

Greetings, everyone- no, fellow contributors.

Recently, a long standing editor and bureaucrat, Qunow, had promoted one of her friends, Rich Richie, to administrator without consulting me or the community, suggesting heavy personal bias. I held a live discussion with both of them and had concluded that Rich will stay demoted and must deserve those rights like any other user through work. However, the next day, Qunow had ignored the consensus and repromoted Rich to buro, again without consulting anyone. This is incredibly unfair to future contributors who wish to get staff and something must be done. I have the chat logs of our discussion, they can be seen [[Project:Chat/Logs/9 Apr 2017|here.]] Please leave your opinion on whether or not they should stay or leave as a staff.

Anyone is free to vote, including the ones who are involved.

Please leave a reason why you support or oppose the demotion or else it may be seen as bias-voting (asking people to vote for you) and be counted as invalid.

The thread will close in one week, I'll leave my own vote after 3 users have voted. Thank you for your time.

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Robyn Grayson·4/17/2017

Very well.

Your reason for opposing? I'm adding it to the tally.

(edited by Robyn Grayson)

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Defan752·4/17/2017

Simply put, Rich Richie has demonstrated himself to be a competent editor and should be given a chance as admin. If Qunow, a longstanding contributor and bureaucrat, believes he is competent, then it stands to reason that he deserves a chance. Moreover, you did not initially discuss the removal of Qunow, and should provide better reason than just "he's biased" before demoting him.

Essentially, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you want a demonstration of reasoning and evidence of contributions before an admin is added, then others deserve a demonstration of reasoning and evidence of guilt before an admin is removed. Fair's fair.

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Robyn Grayson·4/17/2017

A shorter one, I meant. Perhaps as short as those before you?

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Robyn Grayson·4/17/2017

Extending 7 hours until the Defan has replied.

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Qunow·4/17/2017

Hello, I am not confident in whether the full idea of my comment get conserved in some of the other's post, so please read my original comment in the post to understand my comments on the issue.

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Rich Richie·4/17/2017

@Robyn what Defan is saying is that "I think Rich Richie demonstrated himself to be a competent editor and should be given a chance as admin" as what he says in his latest comment. That should be the reason to oppose my demotion.

By the way, you should be able to extract the reason yourself like what you did previously?

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Robyn Grayson·4/17/2017

Updated. This thread will close in 20 minutes. KidProdigy please reply before then.

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Gameuser10·4/17/2017

After reviewing the entire discussion, I must remind people that mere opinions do not exactly constitute a valid vote.

Those who hold reasons such as "I believe they will be helpful." along with "I judged this place needs another Bureaucrat and admin." still fail to address the main point of contention: was the promotion fair and unbiased?

This has been pointed out multiple times, yet is still ignored.

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I have highlighted the reasons in screenshots for this. None of it were edited aside from adding a simple and : i.gyazo.com/68419fdeddd7a50a51b09bd1169bdaa1.png

Reasons:

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If one were to tally again, discounting the ones with opinions as reasons...

Rich Richie's Demotion:

Opposes: 1

Supports: 3

Qunow's Demotion:

Opposes: 1

Supports: 2

Neutral :1

All have confirmed their reasons provided, aside from Mttblue2 who has yet to confirm theirs.

This means, if we were to discount mere opinions as valid reasons, the vote doesn't count.

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Robyn Grayson·4/17/2017

Not to be taking sides but, it really was never stated anywhere that opinions would be valid for a vote, their votes would be disqualified, as per the rule states.

I guess the current tally stands at:

Rich Richie's Demotion:

Opposes: 1

Supports: 3

Qunow's Demotion:

Opposes: 1

Supports: 2

Neutral :1

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Robyn Grayson·4/17/2017

Time is up, unfortunately. The discussion will close.